[MAP] Meeting on Charge Separation - July 7, 14:00 CDT
Roljohn at aol.com
Roljohn at aol.com
Sat Jul 3 10:00:44 EDT 2010
Hi All,
I believe the discussion of charge separation is a diversion from what
the muon cooling team should be addressing. I still maintain that if the
issue is feasibility, then charge separation is irrelevant. Suppose, for
example, that a $1B cooling channel or part of one had to be duplicated for
a muon collider because we couldn't figure out how to separate charges. An
extra $1B for a $10B project is still only a 10% effect, which is in the
noise compared to the other uncertainties in a MC design.
There are more pressing issues and straightforward ways to address
them by experiment and calculation.
We have to come to grips with the comparisons of techniques, not only
for the assumptions in the simulations but the implied hardware
capabilities.
The proponents of cooling channels should be asked to prepare their
end-to-end simulation input files so that an unbiased but knowledgeable
accelerator scientist could duplicate the calculations.
Understanding the maximum charge that an RF bucket can hold for a
given frequency and phase angle will have very large implications for any
design that has an end to end cooling/acceleration/collision plan.
Likewise, the maximum RF gradient, breakdown sensitivity, and
sensitivity to external magnetic fields for vacuum and pressurized cavities are
important inputs to any comparisons. Identifying critical experiments will be
helpful to get priority to do them and a very important role the muon
cooling team could play.
Engineering questions related to superconducting magnets and energy
absorbers can limit the performance of the cooling channels. Understanding
and pushing the state of the art and developing prototypes should also be
encouraged by the muon cooling team.
Rol
Dr. Rolland Johnson
President, Muons, Inc.
(757) 870-6943 (cell)
(757) 930-1463 (home office)
In a message dated 6/30/2010 4:02:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
tjrob at fnal.gov writes:
As discussed last week, we will have a meeting to discuss charge
separation in
the context of muon cooling. This is part of the ongoing series of
meetings and
discussions on comparing and assessing cooling techniques.
Date: July 7, 2010
Time: 14:00 CDT
Room: Rec Room (WH4NW)
Bridge: 510-665-5437, ID 0002
URL: http://indico.fnal.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=3456
Bob Palmer, Rick Fernow, and Dave Neuffer will talk about their ideas and
results. If you also have something to present on this topic, send email
to Tom
Roberts (tjrob at fnal.gov).
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